Animating some bubbline for fun (and also to fill the 75 frames long hole in my 2014 showreel)
Desatured because of tumblr’s shitty uncomprehendable limits.
The only thing this confirms is that one, single individual followed this girl, and approached her.
Please - do tell me how the actions of one creep (who was never confirmed to be wearing an MLP shirt, or was even proven to be personally invested in the convention) automatically define the actions of every last one of the thousands of members of this fan base, which includes more women than I know people like you care to remember.
I’ll be waiting for you to try to justify that one, because by that kind of logic, every negative stereotype ever created to represent any group must be entirely true, which also includes negative stereotypes about women, feminists, Trekkies, etc., which we know hold about as much water as a sieve.
Considering that people continue to circulate rumors about the CMC voice actresses being harassed at EFN after they’ve publicly denied it on Twitter, as well as stories of toddlers who somehow possess the knowledge and motor skills to surf the web by themselves, and bullshit stories about alleged harassment or interactions with what are clearly little more than figments of someone’s twisted imagination, you shouldn’t be the least bit surprised that people regarded this latest allegation with skepticism, especially the fact that Saintcheshire was literally implying that older, male fans were “invading” a convention created BY older fans, FOR older fans. It isn’t merely the incident that is the problem - it is also how you approach reporting it. Do you seriously believe someone screeching about “BIG BAD PEDOPHILE BRONIES EVERYWHERE” is the kind of person people are going to listen to about anything? Should we all suddenly start taking Fox News seriously, as well? By blaming more than the single person at fault, all this does is INVITE skepticism, because WHAT KIND OF RATIONAL FUCKING HUMAN BEING ACTUALLY THINKS THIS WAY?? Unless you’re also going to keep up the stereotype about all gay men being pedophiles, because it’s pretty much the same, completely fucked up mindset.
Meanwhile, what this also shows is that the booth owners obstructed justice by doing nothing about it, which is punishable by law in California. These people did nothing to stop a potential sexual predator, who is now still out there, waiting for another target, and all YOU can do is sit and blame everyone else EXCEPT THE ONE MAN WHO IS AT FAULT.
It doesn’t matter if there is a grain of truth to this particular case (which was buried under piles of exaggeration and emotional manipulation). What matters is the fact that even people who are shocked and appalled at this man’s behavior are automatically being associated with his same values simply due to where he chose a target. Rather than people being in agreement that this man needs to be found and arrested, you’re too concerned with attacking anyone that’s ever enjoyed the show the convention was celebrating. I’m pretty damn sure that if this happened at ANY OTHER CONVENTION ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, it would likely have gone completely unmentioned on Tumblr.
People like you don’t care about that girl’s safety. You care about having another excuse to attack an entire fandom for the actions of A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL. You care about being able to exploit people like that girl for your own personal agenda, and that is NOT OKAY. People like you literally accuse others of pedophilia, rape, and sexual assault, JUST BECAUSE THEY LIKE A FUCKING CARTOON. YOU DO NOT SEXUALLY HARASS ANOTHER HUMAN BEING FOR ANY FUCKING REASON, LET ALONE WATCHING A BUNCH OF FUCKING NON-EXISTENT CREATURES ON A TELEVISION SCREEN.
I urge anyone that DOES care about this child to be put into contact with her parents, or with the authorities regarding her parents, because WHY THE FUCK WAS AN 11-YEAR-OLD GIRL LEFT UNATTENDED ANYWHERE ON THIS PLANET??? Also, this booth owner now needs to be held accountable for not reporting this incident to security, as this is in direct violation of CA state law.
So, yeah - keep gleefully attacking others for the actions of a single man THAT WAS ALLOWED TO CONTINUE WANDERING FREELY OUT INTO THE WORLD. You’re really doing a lot to “help” anyone taking child abduction seriously as an issue.
The people who didn’t report anyone about this should be ashamed of themselves.
Wow. So, we have at least partial confirmation of the situation, but also confirmation that security and the authorities were not informed. As to Karli’s other concerns about inappropriate artwork and body pillows being in the dealers’ room, so far the previous response from BABSCon security makes that look like a fabrication. Karli also mentioned other inappropriate chatter in the original post, but once again, she failed to alert anyone in charge.
Remember, if you don’t report what you see, you’re just adding to the problem. The behavior of a few can tarnish the reputation of many.
Meanwhile, it seems that a would-be abductor may have been stopped by the actions of the SacAnime booth staff, but they’re still out there because of mishandling the situation.
Once again, I wasn’t there. I can only hope that someone with a camera, or perhaps a security camera picked up something, and we can remove the bad seed responsible for what happened. The whole thing is no laughing matter, and if for some reason, you know something about what happened, the email addresses of the parties are easily found.
Let’s keep the fandom safe, and prove that Bronies overall are good people.
so someone involved in the thing has confirmed that something happened, but also that con staff and legal authorities weren’t informed.
In which case, who’s the bad guy? The entire fandom for happening to have one member who stalked a kid? or the person who, instead of letting con staff know “hey there might be a child molester around” instead decided to use it as a soapbox to complain about the entire fandom.
If you’re so worried about the children and how bronies are toxic to them in every way possible, then why did you not report this to the staff? Any sensible human being would do that. She’s a child being harrassed by some low-life, and all you could pick up from that is how much exposure you can get from this on Tumblr?
Unbelievable. It’s like these people aren’t even human.
Could you please explain to me what the hell that has to do with anything?
The implication of your question seems to be that male privilege does not exist because a woman got a light sentence for a horrible crime.
What a shocker: that the American Justice system is not perfect and people who commit terrible crimes sometime get away with it. Would you like counter-examples of men getting a lack of punishment for rape? Because there are plenty of examples of those, too.
I’d also point out that this question is an attempt to belittle the reblog I made earlier about the need for feminism. I notice your question does not challenge any of those points. Instead, you tried to redirect the conversation towards making feminists look like hypocrites or that men are the true victims or something stupid like that. In fact, the link you provided me in a follow-up private ask (I do thank you for that, since I did not know of the story you were referring to, said link is here for those curious: http://ponyprincessesforjustice.tumblr.com/post/80581193523/theapatheticranter-her-legal-defense-was-funded), has commentary on how “feminism provided for her legal defense” and “feminism spent money to spin the local media” as if Feminism is some big organization that we all belong to and are on the payroll of, or perhaps some kind of clubhouse with a secret decoder ring.
Newsflash: feminism is not one monolithic entity that, if unchallenged, will absorb you with its evil, gooey tendrils of women’s rights. Feminism is a philosophical concept, with many varied waves, interpretations, and arguments concerning how the Patriarchy can be fought, what is an example of sexism or an example of agency, or how to spread equality to as many people throughout the world with very different cultural norms than in the United States.
But then again, YOU are not interested in having discussions about that.
Poison—pen, the last thing you sent me was another attempt, like this one, to try to say something bad about feminism (that would be THIS post, if you’re curious: http://atopfourthwall.tumblr.com/post/78491565955). Considering I saw no reblog or comment from you on that one, it makes me curious if you actually even read my tumblr or even know who the hell I am, but instead are simply interested in finding feminists and attacking them. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong in that regard, but I would have thought my position from last time was made perfectly clear, especially in how I feel about Asks like this.
If I’m wrong, feel free to correct me in an ask, private or public, and we’ll continue on our merry way. But as it stands, I see no reason to acknowledge any future asks from you on this subject, since you seem to be the one here who is uninterested in learning anything about feminism.
I’d like to know how his question doesn’t have to do with anything. He presented you with an inquiry, and rather than provide any direct answer, you instead chose to play “I’ll see your privilege, and raise you a dollar!”. If this is your idea of practicing “feminism”, I’d rather you called it something else entirely, because you’re certainly not encouraging anyone’s cooperation, let alone even making anyone want to take you seriously as an activist.
You see, you’re openly disregarding the situation presented to you in favor of citing examples that suit your side of the debate, which wasn’t what was asked. This is one of the largest problems I, as a woman, have found with today’s brand of “feminism” - the idea that it is somehow above criticism, and the way it is being treated as a self-serving system that refuses to take into account legitimate injustice unless it is in regards to their own interests. For every instance of a rapist getting a lighter sentence, there’s a woman that has received similar for unapologetic murder. But, of course, since this reflects poorly on women, it’s never mentioned, nor is it ever noted that much of what is circulated regarding instances of domestic violence and abuse are either greatly exaggerated, or just plain false. Violence against spouses and children isn’t just “man’s domain”, and neglecting to point out the injustice when it’s a woman as the perpetrator only supports the same kind of gender inequality that is the very foundation of the problems that feminism originally sought to correct.
There are undeniably major problems with today’s “feminism”.
For starters, it has a nasty little habit of circulating outright lies. The “One in four women will become victims of rape” statistic has long since been proven false, due to being conducted with a clear bias from the beginning. There is also the matter of the old "equal work for equal pay" myth failing to take into account that it means precisely what it says - equal WORK, i.e., work that matches the output of others across the board, regardless of gender. The same amount of hours put into a job does not automatically equate to equal work being accomplished in that time frame. Of course, these aren’t the only lies being perpetuated in the name of “activism”. This also doesn’t account for acts of violence, disruption, and harassment taken part in under that same guise of “promoting equality”.
I have seen the face of today’s feminism. I came to Tumblr proud to don that label, because I thought it was only concerned with standing for what is just. Unfortunately, I came to see that it has been irreversibly stained by a corrupt mindset less concerned with equality between the sexes on a global scale, and more concerned with their own personal space bubble, trying to police how we express ourselves (not sure if you’re aware, but many victims of rape and molestation use humor as a coping mechanism to take what happened to them, and strip it of the fear and power it holds over them), and blame crimes such as rape on anything but the rapist. Humor is not the Devil’s hand - it is not impacting upon behavior, but reflective of it. If you’d like, I also have this 220-page thesis about that particular topic. Even women scholars have contested the idea of “rape culture”, as in this thesis by a specialist in contemporary moral theory. Meanwhile, I have yet to see a single “feminist” even acknowledge the fact that recorded instances of rape have actually decreased by over 80% since 1979 (that is, unless they immediately follow that statement by either outright denying it, or trying to imply that unreported cases of rape could ever even come close to bridging such a tremendous gap). There are reasons why sayings exist such as “The road to Hell is paved with good intentions”. Even the best laid plans of mice and [wo]men can turn sour, and end up exploiting the very people they claim to be helping, such as the situation exposed in this 2005 documentary.
And so, with this in mind, I ask you - how legitimate is a movement when it has become associated with a self-serving attitude of free-floating hostility that believes itself above questioning? As far as I can see, not very. It is with deep regret that I have discarded the label of “feminist”, as the stigma attached to it is not a cross I care to bear. I would rather wear a nice, clean pair of pants than to remain in a pair that has been gracelessly shat upon, and has festered and molded, because no one is willing to take a stand to correct its flawed execution.
I kind of hope you manage a decent debate here because I really respect Linkara and don’t want to see him turn into a SJW.
^My sentiment exactly. Geez, this is not what I wanted to log back into tumblr and see…
Yeah, it’s like more and more of the TGWTG people are getting roped in and it’s disheartening because I idolized these people as content producerd as a kid for not only being awesome reviewers but being good people with decent morals and real compassion for people outside of work as well.
I hate to see them fall because they were all already socially progressive and good people in their own right without falling into SJW bullshit.
I can’t even begin to fathom how much Spoony’s, Doug’s, and Lewis’s video’s got me though as a teen. I still look back on “FMV Hell” fondly as the thing that nurtured my obsession with old, obscure, and weird games.
Ja, exactly! I’ve already lost faith in a lot of producers and reviewers because they seem to want to split into two categories: SJW-mindset or ‘God, I hate this thing, I hate the fans of this thing, but in order to keep views and money up, I’ll half-ass a video on it’. TGWTG seemed to be a place outside of that. Yeah, I acknowledge that some producers may have their own beliefs, but not when they believe and promote movements that, in current incarnations (Third-Wave feminism) are not doing anything but hurting people and seeking a swap out of the status-quo under the guise of ‘Equality’.
Hey, I want men and women to be equal! I don’t want a woman’s expected place to be in the kitchen. However, I also don’t want men to be demoted to walking, talking sperm-banks as many Third-Wave feminists think they should be.
*sigh* Sorry about that, I just… I just really like Linkara’s work. And between this and JesuOtaku giving me more reason to groan at her work after I had started to give her the benefit of the doubt a few months ago, I just don’t like how things are going…
I started losing about the time Doug put up a half-assed defense for Anita(with all she’s done and all her failures to research) and bitched about Samus’s High Heels on Facebook.
Jesu didn’t surprise me because I was hanging around Tvtropes doing some editing the day she waged war on them a few months back.
and yeah, I’m in this place where I kind of wish Tumblr never existed because it’s done a lot to close the gap between the toxic part of the net and nicer half and make them almost interchangeable in some areas.
Ew… Doug, why?
I mean (and this also goes to my followers) I don’t think that anyone should get rape or death threats… However, I will not suger-coat my reactions to Ms. Sarkeesian borderline conning people out of thousands of dollars for promoting biased information.
I mean, I like to think that there was a time where tumblr was good: Things were divided between the hipsters, the fandoms, and the professionals who used this place to advertise art, graphic design, and writing but… Maybe I’m just being naive?
Ah! I’m sorry, you’ve probably been wanting this conversation to end a few posts ago! It’s just odd to have a decent conversation on this site anymore.
Yeah. These days, my mind keeps thinking of the “Are you next?” thing involving creators getting too caught up in this sjw crap. It’s honestly making me depressed.
Her legal defense was funded by feminism..
Feminism spent money spinning the local media to poison the jury pool.
Feminism approved of, sanctioned, and attempted to pardon this disgusting pedophile.
If you donate to feminist organizations, if you support feminism by claiming to be one or regurgitating their hate-fueled manifesto, then you supporting child rapists only getting 2 years in prison.
I fully realize some of you disgusting, child-rape apologist feminists are going to attempt to “justify” her raping a little boy for years and only getting two years in prison and it’s people like you who make me wish hypocrisy was lethal.
Im so done with these fucking feminists
~ shining armor
Welp. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but if this is true…
I resign from the feminist cause. I’m a supporter of equality, not for this pedo-glorification bs. If I honestly encounter this woman, lets just say she’s not going to get out unscarred…
Probably because fictional ponies meant to be marketed towards little girls are more attractive than them. They are jealous that they are so fucking off putting guys would rather pay attention to a cartoon. I’m pretty sure that’s what it boils down to.
That and it’s one of the few positive things a feminist (Lauren Faust) has created.
Also it’s probably due to the fact that bronies care about the fact that not only Lauren Faust wanted the show to be for girls and boys without the fear of gender stereotyping, but the original creator (Bonnie Zacherie) also intended for the show to be for everyone, and not just little girls. Feminists seem to hate gender equality.
It’s also funny to me because Lauren hates those kind of feminists and even wrote a PPG episode about how feminists SHOULD NOT ACT complete with a villain that was bad feminism incarnate.
She also tore Miss Magazine a new ass once.
Oh yeah, those were both absolutely glorious.
Oh and another reason is because that Twilight may master the magic of friendship, but Femmenazis are the masters of the magic known as DOUBLE STANDARDS.
Yaoi Fangirls in the Transformers fandom drawing Megatron sticking his “Fusion cannon” into Starscream’s “Tailpipe?” Lol, who cares?
Tumblr shippers drawing Elsa and Anna making out (even after most them raised a tantrum over the Sami bullshit)? grrl powah!
Kingdom hearts fangirls violently kill off every female not named Aqua or Larxene or derail them into heartless cunts just so that they’re out of the way of TEH GAI BOYZ? “omg stop harassing meh it’s just fanfiction lmao!!!!!!111!”
But some dude minding his own business never harmin’ nobody starts drawing pictures of a cartoon horse from a little girl’s show shaking her ass and OMFG RAPE CULTURE PATRIARCHY MALE SCUM FAT SHRIMPDICK NECBEARD FEDORA MRA BRONIES ARE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLL!!1!!11!!1!!11!!!!!111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That pretty much sums up Tumblr.
These responses are hilarious and brilliant.
I think the anti-brony movement suffers a lot from the Texas sharpshooter fallacy, when the original justification for dehumanizing male fans was dismantled people looked anywhere and everywhere for something to hang their prejudice on, ever notice every single incident someone does something who happens to be a fan of the show people flock around and shout “oh actually *this* is why I hate that group” as if they couldn’t quite articulate why they felt the way they did before? because of that the whole thing has become too varied, too difficult to pinpoint, some people even hate them for putting toys on desks, go figure.
One reason I have come across quite a lot is that bronies are getting too much media attention, that SJ supporters and feminists have been trying desperately to get many issues into the limelight and bronies just come waltzing in and manage to gain far more media coverage and support for breaking gender norms in 3 years than they’ve done in 30. Many see this as a giant slap in the face. This seems to be the driving force for a lot of the hate #standwithGrayson and Michael Morones has faced from people who supposedly support social justice.
What they don’t seem to realize is that by acting as one giant support group bronies have done a lot to eliminate pluralistic ignorance surrounding their hobby that is still inflicting many of the issues feminists and SJ supporters continue to face today, drumming things into peoples heads and educating them only go so far, nothing can really change as long as everyone still thinks everyone else doesn’t want it. A lot of people will hate me for saying it, but people on tumblr trying to change public opinion could learn a thing or two from bronies.
Not going to comment on anything regarding JesuOtaku, I don’t follow her work close enough - do to her dropped series and schedules - for me to know much about her.
But this attitude is ridiculous. You can see the exact moment where this went from ‘Yay, no more enforcing gender roles on to inanimate objects’ to suddenly being an awful thing because boys made the change, and not girls.
This is the crux of my issue with people getting up in arms over bronies having something to do with the lessening of the West’s stringent gender roles; the only reason people try to discredit the advancement bronies have made is because they are not girls.
Every anti-brony argument regarding making gender norms dated just smacks of utter jealousy.Female fans of traditionally male-orientated activities or fandoms are jealous that they are not the ones who were able to enact great change. And you know what? It is absolutely fair to be upset that the boys got more media attention, more coverage, and that their movement was more regarded simply do to the fact they are boys.
That is completely fair, and true. Bronies getting the level of attention they do does have to do with sexist norms that are ingrained in our society. However, that does not mean what they have contributed it worthless or that their entire fandom should be demonized. If you’re going to demonize bronies for the contributions they’ve made to helping ease gender norms, if you’re going to pull your support of gender norms being disregarded just because your group is not getting the spotlight, then you really don’t care about the issue you claim you care about. All you care about is being in the limelight.
Ah, just needed to pop in here to correct a misconception: what was being said before was not “it’s bad because boys are into it”, it’s “some people refuse to acknowledge it as a girl thing to start with”. I honestly don’t see this in particular as being a huge deal, as it’s pretty common practice to ask specifics so customers know what’s in stock, but generally when people get frustrated about this, it’s more about being mad the feminine quality of FiM is often really…downplayed in fandom (stuff like “LIKING PONIES IS MANLY” or “FiM is better than the past gens because it’s not as girly"—which I never got, honestly, it’s a girly as fuck show and unabashedly so).
It genuinely is a thing that happens and something we should be critical of. Obviously not everyone feels that way, but enough do that it should be talked about. Digibro did a great video about it a while ago, if you hadn’t seen it.
That is also a really fair point, castorochiaro, I totally see what you’re saying there and I agree. That is a thing that happens, and it’s a silly thing, and it does need to go the way of the Dodo (meaning, become extinct).
I think I got a little tangental in my response. :3
"some people refuse to acknowledge it as a girl thing to start with"
Why is this an inherently bad thing? if your aim is to make something gender neutral surely it would be self defeating to label things as boy/girl things. Why do we have female spaces? this kind of thinking is pushing us into gender roles, not away from them. The pony toys here aren’t being labeled as “boys toys” they’re being stripped of this whole boys/girls toys nonsense.
Yes some do label ponies as manly because they’re very insecure about it, it’s a very tongue in cheek way of dealing with the embarrassment of enjoying something “not meant for you” but isn’t that itself a symptom of gender roles? many bronies don’t care about social issues, they’re not doing it in the name of social justice, they do it to enjoy something without the ridicule or guilt gender roles bring, but since when has social Justice been about the sole interests of social justice proponents?
The people throwing a fit over this have the maturity of a girl who gets angry because a boy gets a cookie before her.
ATTENTION CERTAIN TUMBLR USERS:
If you have to circulate lies about people actually involved in the production of a show just to further your own incredibly sad, petty little agenda, that is NOT OKAY.
IT IS AN INVASION OF THAT PERSON’S LIFE, AND YOU ARE THE ONES SEXUALLY HARASSING THEM.
You stupid motherfuckers doing these things give bronies and feminists who actually want equality a bad name.
Way to go enforcing the gender stereotype that women falsefy sexual harassment and rape claims. Way to put others at risk of not having their REAL AND NON-FICTION reports taken seriously.
I bet you’re the same motherfuckers on the block holding up picket signs demanding that courts and police authority take sexual harrasement and rape reports be given more scrutiny and investigations.
Man i’m kind of embarrassed for posting this but….
Thank you for the great illustration. I am very delightful *\ (^o^)/ *